oh yes it is exciting to me too especially to find living family... as for me I am the great grand son of George Cox Fache (OBE). His daughter (Phyllis) was my grandma. I lived with her for a bit at Oriental Terrace in 1960-61 and again in 1970-1973. She was a truly great lady. She says I am the spitting image of GCF and I feel eerily connected to him as well. When she died she willed me the one photo of her dad which has his OBE pinned to it. I plan to bring it back to NZ in hopes of finding a fitting home for it. Perhaps the NZRU or Commission of Pensions or his alma mater Otago Boys High School.

Yes I know of the sheep station in the south island apparently sold and subdivision sadly but do plan to tour that area as well. No I worked on a station up near Ruapehu(sp?) as a training junior shepherd briefly which I wish to revisit as well.

No I was conceived in NZ but born in England and lived mostly in Canada. I wrote a book "An Incredible Life which I believe is partially posted somewhere in the Dunstan Times.tripod. There is a lot of stuff about our family history online now too, if you search for George Fache in "newspapers past" . Do you know of our French Heugenot past? I am especially proud of that.  May I post info that you share with me? I am after all a reporter for the website! The pay sucks but I love the job!

Lovely to hear from you

Talked to Colin (he's not so good on computers lol so I'm the secretary)

There was a sheep station in the south island (Ranfurly) where Betty (his fathers sister Elizabeth) lived.  She married the Tom Mawini (not sure of spelling) but he's not sure if the farm was her's or his families.  It was about 5000acres.  He did visit there as a child (after Colins father died) when he was approx 13.

Were you born in NZ? Also was going through your page but wasn't fully sure where you fitted in as found it confusing to follow.  Would I be right in saying you came from the George Cox Fache line via George Atahi Fache?  Colin says he was an airline pilot that lived in Auckland (in the North Island). He also recalls staying a night at Phyllis's place in Wellington (also North Island) while they were doing the family visits.

Would be happy for you to come and visit when you come over. :)

It's all quite exciting makes me want to look up my family tree lol  Also and unusual name.

Thanks

Emma :)

On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 5:24 AM, Mike Milne <spacermike007@yahoo.ca> wrote:

Nice to hear from you, yes I have read of Sidney. Can you email the pic? I am travelling to NZ in October 2012 so to meet for a tea would be great. I plan to visit the original George Fache's graveside down near Greymouth and celebrate the 150th anniversary of the founding of the Dunstan Times (1862-2012) in Clyde. I am trying to find a sheep station up in the middle of the north island, it might be family related. do you know of anything like that? Its funny how they love the name George ....even me I am Michael George ...keep in touch

Hi Mike

We were looking at your webpage

https://dunstan-times000.tripod.com/id51.html last

night in response to a phone call from someone tracking down my partner

Colin Fache.  Colin is related as follows

George Fache who your web page is dedicated to is his great grand father

via Sidney Fache. Sidney Fache had two marriages and Colin's father is

George Sidney Fache who was Sidney Faches son as a result of his first

marriage.  Thought you might be interested  to hear from another part of

the family.  We live in Cambridge in the Waikato area of the North Island.

We have a photo of Sidney and his first wife Elizabeth and also one of

their children George Sydney and Elizabeth.

Thanks

Emma

Archibald J Elliot, manager of the J.C. Williamson Ltd theatres, helped me to find a set of papers donated by Mrs A J Elliot (presumably Phyllis Elliot), from Wellington, in January 1975. These are called the Archibald J Elliot papers [archives reference: MS-Group-0107] as although Mrs. Elliot donated them, they mostly relate to Archibald Elliot's personal and business life, including his journals, business and personal letters and a scrapbook relating to the theatre. I discovered that Phyllis's second name was Rose, and that she had two siblings, George Autahi Fache and Sibyl Grace Fache Aha, I’ve found you on the family tree.  I guess that makes us 2nd cousins then ! Yes, both Mum and Dad  are still alive.  She’s 70 (born 1940).  I’ve got 2 sisters, Tracy Lee Mackenzie Smith - born 1966 and Kirstin Ann Mackenzie Smith – born 1968.  And then there’s me, Josephine Emma Mackenzie Wilson (nee Smith) - born 1974.  We are all currently living in Christchurch and Rangiora (30 mins out of Chch), New Zealand. My sister Kirstin has 2 children, Joseph Louis Mackenzie Dawson – age 13 years, and Helena Grace Mackenzie Dawson – age 9 years. 

I have one son named Lachlan Alexander Mackenzie Wilson born 2006. My mother’s brother Bruce George Fache died in 1976.  He had 5 children but unfortunately we don’t know any of them. Mum has said she has boxes full of Grandad’s old papers, and suitcases full of photos.  I’ll have a hunt through them and see what I can come up with.  Anything interesting I’ll be sure to pass on to you.  George Autahi died in 1986, a year after Phyllis. As mentioned in my first email I have 2 different copies of our family tree.  I’ll work out how to get copies to you, I may need to scan them.  They both go back to John Baptiste Fache who left Normandy, France for England in 1685.  He settled in Shoreditch and Clerkenwell and died in 1730.  Unfortunately the records I have don’t go back any further, and I don’t even have a birth date for him.  There are dates for subsequent births / deaths that seem to differ between both records so I will need to research them further to work out which is correct. Is your mother still alive ? I’ll be in touch soon.Take care

I’ve just stumbled across your website and thought I’d contact you. 

My mother is Rosalie Mary Grace Smith (nee Fache) daughter of George Atahi Fache (born 1900).  He was the son of George Cox Fache.

I have 2 different copies of our family tree if you are interested.  They both go back to John Baptiste Fache who left Normandy, France for England in 1685.  He died in 1730. 

It appears you’ve compiled a vast amount of information about our family, and I’d love to know what you’ve found out.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Kind Regards

Jo Mackenzie-Wilson

                                                          Eve Gertrude  Fache         m. Charles 1907

                                                          Iris Isobel  Fache  aged 30 m. Mitchell 1915

                                                          George Fache m. Lizzie Cox 24 Oct 1868

From local  death registration records    2 May 1872  William Michael Fache inflammation of the bowels aged 6 weeks b. NZ  Informant W Fache

                                                          3 Aug 1881 William Fache printer of Clyde.  Stricture of the urethra aged 52  b. Eng. Informant G Fache

                                                          4 Jan 1891 Elizabeth Cecilia Fache dau. of Geo Fache of Clyde  Tuberculous meningitis aged 14

                                                              Informant G Fache

                                                          11 Aug 1914  Mrs Fache wife of G C Fache at Ophir of childbirth. Resident of Ida Valley born NZ   

NZ govt. lists George Cox Fache O.B.E

made his name in Clyde (formerly Dunstan) where there is a street named after him.   Ada Fache 1918 -1994 was famous as head of Dunedin Public Library.  Her obit says she was the daughter of Sydney Charles Fache, Master of a gold dredge on the Nevis River Otago, and Amy Howard.  No Sydney  or Charles on your list so not all are children of your  g g g father William Michael Fache.

From NZ Gen Society

The occupations of George Fache Sr.given in postal directories 1869-1900 for Clyde are listed as Dunstan Times Newspaper proprietor, Insurance Agent, Captain of the Fire Brigade, Sec. Dunstan Hospital Board, auctioneer and Sharebroker. Obviously a talented man. He died in Queenstown but we do not have Queenstown burial registers.

From The Dunstan Times of  23 May 1873 

On the 5th Feb1872 at Pelham Place  Brompton  London W.  Mr William Fache the respected father of William and George  Fache of this town.......my great-great-great-grandfather (mike) died

Ada Fache 1918 -1994 was famous as head of Dunedin Public Library.  Her obit says she was the daughter of Sydney Charles Fache, Master of a gold dredge on the Nevis River Otago, and Amy Howard.  No Sydney  or Charles on your list so not all are children of your  g g g father William Michael Fache.

the Dunstan-Times

Founded in 1872 by George Fache

Current Editor : His great-great grandson, Mike Milne

email us   spacermike007@yahoo.comThe Dunstan Times 

This website has been established primarily in honour of its founder, George Fache. He founded The Dunstan Times in 1862. As an early settler in what is now Clyde, New Zealand. He was the  great-great grandfather of Mike Milne, who, while compiling a family biography, discovered that his news service had been abandoned. Our news service will primarily focus on news that affects us in Brampton, Ontario, as this is where these articles originate. We will focus mainly on issues we feel are important to us, such as police and government corruption, Christian commentary and astronomy news. However we want feedback to keep going,

Nigel Murphy <nigel.murphy@natlib.govt.nz> wrote:
Dear Mike Milne,

Your email of 11 April 2005 asked about putting the Dunstan Times
(1864-1948) on our Papers Past site. Unfortunately there are no plans
to do this at the present. We hold a portion of the Times on microfilm
- 1890-1939 to be precise.

A very familiar and much respected figure on the Otago goldfields, in the person of Mr Geo Fache, passed away on Sunday evening last at Kawarau Falls Station where he had been residing with his daughter Mrs J P McBride. Deceased gentleman had been ailing for 6 months past and his extreme age told against his infirmities.  Though he received all the care that it was possible to give, deceased endured much suffering, and death came as a happy release. The late Mr Fache was born in the West End of London.  He came out to the Dominion nearly 55 years ago and was attracted to the Gabriels Gully and Dunstan gold rushes.  At Clyde Mr Fache founded the Dunstan Times in 1862 which he ably conducted until 1895.  He also carried on an auctioneering and commission agency as well as the paper.  After relinquishing the Times the deceased retained the latter business.  He eventually sold up and commenced along the same lines at Wellington.  After 3 years he went back to Clyde and again re-opened on a moderate scale.  It is now a year or so that the deceased retired into private life, living amongst the members of his family. The late Mr Fache identified himself with the township of Clyde assisting materially to furthur any object which went for advancement.  He moreover proved himself a popular townsman.  Deceased was a widower and leaves a family of 3 sons and 4 daughters.  The sons are Mr Geo Fache Commissioner of Pensions Wellington,  Mr Sydney Fache Officer in National Mortgage and Agency Co, Palmerston South, and Mr Bert Fache who is a member of one of the NZ Expeditionary Forces.  The daughters are Mrs Charles of Mataura,  Mrs J F McBride Kawarau Falls Station Frankton, Mrs A Mitchell Lammerburn Clutha, and Miss Fache post mistress at Waipiata Central Otago. Very general sympathy is expressed for the family in their bereavement.  The remains will be interred in the Frankton Cemetery. 

The occupations of George Fache (Sr.) given in postal directories 1869-1900 for Clyde are listed as Dunstan Times Newspaper proprietor, Insurance Agent, Captain of the Fire Brigade, Sec. Dunstan Hospital Board, auctioneer and Sharebroker. Obviously a talented man. He died in Queenstown.(Kawarau Falls Station July 25,1915)

11/05/05 07:52:00 >>>
Thanks for your email, I have been researching my family Fache who
settled in Clyde NZ before 1870...this is what I have found of my great
grandfather "Fache, George Cox OBE > Retired public servant; Care >of
the Wellesley Club, Wellington. >Born in Clyde Otago N.Z. on
>April8/1870, son of George Fache, proprietor >"Dunstan Times". Married
>Grace daughter of Alfred Clark. One son, two daughters. Educated Clyde
>and OBHS. First XV(rugby) and first XI >(cricket) 1886-7. Wellington
>rugby football representative 1890. Rugby >referee 1892-1904. NZ
>selector 1896-1905. Member of WRFU, NZ Rowing >Association. > Cadet
and
>clerk Government Insurance Department 1889-1902, chief >clerk Pensions
>Department 1902-1909, Deputy Commissioner of Pensions >1909-1912,
>Commissioner 1912-1929. Secretary and member War Pensions >Board
>1915-1929.,died in Gore in Oct1948. I have been searching for info for
over 100 hours, also he won an O.B.E.. I would like to find the  the
boat they came to N.!
Z on.
There are other sides to this search.. I am searching with limited
results. Can you please advise me?....thanks, mike....ps. I know my
search will be long, for our history involves the Fache Hugenots
fleeing
persecution in France to England in the 1600's.
I was hoping information you may hold could be forwarded to myself.
Ship name/date from England, old photos,copies of Dunstan Times
articles, or anything would be invaluableto me.
                     sincerely.
                   Mike Milne

Fache Facts... I know that William Fache of #5(?) Pelham Place Brompton London W.  father of George and William (Jr.) having emigrated to New Zealand < 1860, died on Feb. 5/1873. I believe he is listed as born in France. I believe his passing was recorded

I would have liked to provide a more in depth account of his sport and private life, however I am rather busy myself lately and wanted to get something out to you as soon as possible. I hope this rough application is suffient to the matter.

Sincerely Mike MilneNZRU G C Fache (Wellington Club), represented Wellington 1890, 2 matches.Matches playedAugust 30 v Hawkes Bay at Napier. Lost 3-6. September 23 v Wairarapa at Wellington. Won 13-4. (G C Fache 2 conversions          from the Wakatipu Mail   Tues July 27 1915

the late Mr Fache was born in the West End of London.  He came out to the Dominion nearly 55 years ago and was attracted to the Gabriels Gully and Dunstan gold rushes.  At Clyde Mr Fache founded the Dunstan Times in 1862 which he ably conducted until 1895.  He also carried on an auctioneering and commission agency as well as the paper.  After relinquishing the Times the deceased retained the latter business.  He eventually sold up and commenced along the same lines at Wellington.  After 3 years he went back to Clyde and again re-opened on a moderate scale.  It is now a year or so that the deceased retired into private life, living amongst the members of his family. The late Mr Fache identified himself with the township of Clyde assisting materially to furthur any object which went for advancement.  He moreover proved himself a popular townsman.  Deceased was a widower and leaves a family of 3 sons and 4 daughters.  The sons are Mr Geo Fache Commissioner of Pensions Wellington,  Mr Sydney Fache Officer in National Mortgage and Agency Co, Palmerston South, and Mr Bert Fache who is a member of one of the NZ Expeditionary Forces.  The daughters are Mrs Charles of Mataura,  Mrs J F McBride Kawarau Falls Station Frankton, Mrs A Mitchell Lammerburn Clutha, and Miss Fache post mistress at Waipiata Central Otago. Very general sympathy is expressed for the familyin their bereavement.  The remains will be interred in the Frankton Cemetery.

ALLBLACKS  FOREVER

 I understand on good authority that the N.Z.R.U. have a document framed on their boardroom wall which is a hand written document from the 1905 team list of the players and their gradings

    George Cox FacheIn 1919 George Cox Fache  was awarded his O.B.E. for his efforts in establishing the war pensions.

My great grandfather was more than an influential sports figure, though I understand that this is why I am asking for his induction to the New Zealand Sports Hall of Fame. However as I wish to ensure his nomination, I will share any other information that accentuates his overall accomplishments. My great grandfather (George Cox Fache) was more than an influential sports figure,he was a great man in so many ways. Growing up as a pioneer during the gold- rush days life was tough; and you had to be tough just to survive. Perhaps this how he managed to excel at life in every area he set his hand to.

Though I  do understand that this nomination application is for his sports achievements and is the reason why I am asking for his induction to the New Zealand Sports Hall of Fame. Yet there was so much more to him! However as I wish to ensure his nomination, I am willing to share any other information that is at my disposal, which will help accentuate his worthiness as an inductee into The Sports Hall of Fame. I believe knowing some of his overall accomplishments may aid the decision to grant him acceptance for his contributions.

 theFache family

has through history been inivative, committed, resourceful and successful. It is with this blood that I write to you. Write back to spacermike007@yahoo.com
 I am tracing family history. I know William Fache of Pelham Place Brompton London W.  father of George and William died on Feb. 5/1873. I was hoping for any other info like his fathers info, and of their immigrating from France.

George Cox Fache  http://www.CityOfDunedin.com   

joanss@xtra.co.nz>  from the Wakatipu Mail   Tues July 27 1915

A very familiar and much respected figure on the Otago goldfields, in the person of Mr Geo Fache, passed away on Sunday evening last at Kawarau Falls Station where he had been residing with his daughter Mrs J P McBride. Deceased gentleman had been ailing for 6 months past and his extreme age told against his infirmities.  Though he received all the care that it was possible to give, deceased endured much suffering, and death came as a happy release. The late Mr Fache was born in the West End of London.  He came out to the Dominion nearly 55 years ago and was attracted to the Gabriels Gully and Dunstan gold rushes.  At Clyde Mr Fache founded the Dunstan Times in 1862 which he ably conducted until 1895.  He also carried on an auctioneering and commission agency as well as the paper.  After relinquishing the Times the deceased retained the latter business.  He eventually sold up and commenced along the same lines at Wellington.  After 3 years he went back to Clyde and again re-opened on a moderate scale.  It is now a year or so that the deceased retired into private life, living amongst the members of his family. The late Mr Fache identified himself with the township of Clyde assisting materially to furthur any object which went for advancement.  He moreover proved himself a popular townsman.  Deceased was a widower and leaves a family of 3 sons and 4 daughters.  The sons are Mr Geo Fache Commissioner of Pensions Wellington,  Mr Sydney Fache Officer in National Mortgage and Agency Co, Palmerston South, and Mr Bert Fache who is a member of one of the NZ Expeditionary Forces.  The daughters are Mrs Charles of Mataura,  Mrs J F McBride Kawarau Falls Station Frankton, Mrs A Mitchell Lammerburn Clutha, and Miss Fache post mistress at Waipiata Central Otago. Very general sympathy is expressed for the familyin their bereavement.  The remains will be interred in the Frankton Cemetery.