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Footfalls echo in the memory
Down the passage which we did not take
Towards the door we never opened
Into
the rose-garden....
There they were, dignified, invisible,
Moving without pressure,
In the autumn heat, through the vibrant air,
And the bird called, in response to
The unheard music hidden in the shrubbery...
Go, go, go, said the bird: human kind
Cannot bear very much reality.
Time past and time future
What might
have been and what has been
Point to one end, which is always present.
Bill Gye
Prior to 1860 immigrants like George and William Fache (Jr.) had to travel by sail to New Zealand
Eve Gertrude Fache m. Charles 1907
Iris Isobel Fache aged 30 m. Mitchell 1915
George Fache m. Lizzie Cox 24 Oct 1868
From local death registration records 2 May 1872 William Michael
Fache inflammation of the bowels aged 6 weeks b. NZ Informant W Fache
3 Aug 1881 William Fache printer of Clyde. Stricture of the urethra aged 52 b. Eng. Informant G Fache
4 Jan 1891 Elizabeth Cecilia Fache dau. of Geo Fache of Clyde Tuberculous meningitis aged 14
Informant G Fache
11 Aug 1914 Mrs Fache wife of G C Fache at Ophir of childbirth. Resident of Ida Valley born NZ
Hope this is useful for the family tree Regards Joan Stevens
Ron,Thanks
for the quick response, I am very excited of your news of my great grandfather, who comes with a very illustrious
history of the family of Fache's, even his dad was a founding figure in th colonization of the Dunstan area in the 1860's(
George Fache not Jr. (Cox Fache)as well as his emigrating brother William. The family history shows they all seem to have
a wierd facination with repeating names, even my middle name is George,even unconsciously when my daughter was born I gave her a French name as per our Heugenot roots. I
named her Mirielle(my reason was however due to a Q.C. girlfiend who played records by a Mirielle Mathieu  (sp?)a French chantuese. I especially loved songs like " Aux
Bicyclettes du Versailles, and Aujourd'hui, Je Reviens"
from Arrowtown to Frankton.  Henrietta Hunt,Baptized 27th October 1811
Saint Marys, Lambeth, London, England
Married: 7th March 1835 Old Church, Saint Pancras London, EnglandDied before April 1863
Married:
Charles James Fache
possibly brother of my great-great-great-grandfather William (mike)
7th March
1835 Old Church, Saint Pancras, London, England
You may like to know that three or four
years ago I found the 1905
All Blacks
team list written by hand by George Fache, complete with crossing out of some names and ticks by others. I gave it to the NZRU and the
last time I saw it, it was hanging in their boardroom.
Ron
: "Ron Palenski" ron.p@clear.net.nz>Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 Hi Inductions are considered by an induction
panel rather than by me. I can send you a nomination form if you wish.>Ron Original Message From: Mike
Milne To: ron.p@clear.net.nz, Subject: Re: consider another inductee into your sport hall of fame, George
Fache O.B.E.> Retired public servant; Care >of > the Wellesley Club, Wellington. >Born in Clyde Otago N.Z.
on > >April8/1870, son of George Fache, proprietor >"Dunstan Times". Married Grace daughter of Alfred Clark. One
son, two daughters. Educated Clyde and OBHS. First XV(rugby) and first XI >(cricket) 1886-7. Wellington rugby football
representative 1890. Rugby referee 1892-1904. NZ selector 1896-1905. Member of WRFU, NZ Rowing >Association. > Cadet and
clerk Government Insurance Department 1889-1902, chief >clerk Pensions > >Department 1902-1909, Deputy Commissioner
of Pensions >1909-1912, Commissioner 1912-1929. Secretary and member War Pensions >Board1915-1929.,died in Gore in Oct1948. http://fachefiles.tripod.com/
| Surname |
From |
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Migration |
Comment |
| Fache |
1873 |
5/2/1873 |
France>England |
died in Pelham Place Brompton London W. |
| Forster |
1920 |
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"Mike Milne" <spreadtheword75@hotmail.com> |
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Dear MikeThanks for the further information: this may be helpful to the reference staff at the Hocken Collections, who
do have shipping lists and may also have more information on the Dunstan Times. They can be contacted directly by email
via their query form, at http://www.library.otago.ac.nz/services/email.html
Good luck
with your research, and do let us know if you find any indication he was a student at Otago. Best wishesKarin Warnaar24/11/2004,
you wrote: thanks for your offer, here is what I found so far..its from "who's who in New Zealand dated 1932 Fache, George
Cox O.B.E. Retired public servant; Care of the Wellesley Club, Wellington. Born Clyde Otago 1870, son of George Fache,
proprietor "Dunstan Times". Married Grace daughter of Alfred Clark. One son two daughters. Educated Clyde and OBHS. First
XV(rugby) and first XI (cricket) 1886-7. Wellington rugby football representative 1890. Rugby referee 1892-1904. NZ selector
1896-1905. Member of WRFU, NZ Rowing Association.Cadet and clerk Government Insurance Department 1889-1902, chief clerk Pensions
Department 1902-1909, Deputy Commissioner of Pensions 1909-1912, Commissioner 1912-1929. Secretary and member War Pensions
Board 1915-1929." I still however have no idea why he won an O..B.E. which was my original goal ...very perplexed
that he had a son ( name), my grandma( Phyliss) never mentioned a brother. If you have the grandfather
in Englands name or the boat they came to N.Z. in, or siblings names would be great Dear Mike
Thank you for your email. I've looked at the old University of New Zealand Roll of Graduates, and find no Fache or Forster
on the list in the time frame you mention, but this is not an infallible roll. I would suggest you contact the reference
section of the Hocken Collections http://www.library.otago.ac.nz/libs/hocken/index.html, and also see if you can get any more information from your family in the meanwhile, as this may help identify which would
be the appropriate records to look through - eg, what might he have studied, why was he awarded the OBE? I'm sorry I
can't be more help, the Alumni & Development Office holds few historical records but I hope you may have more success
with the Hocken. All the best with your research.Warm regards Karin Warnaar 19/11/2004, you wrote:I was studing our family
history and I was wondering if my great grandfather George Cox Fache who went on to be an Allblack, he was also awarded an
O.B.E..attended your university around the 1890's. I have spent weeks trying to find out about our family history without
any luck.He was born in Clyde NZ April8/1870 died in Gore Oct.5/1948.His daughter Phyliss (later to become Forster) may have
attended. definitely my momAnnette(later to become Milne) attended around 1950 have you any info to share? thanks in advance,
Mike Milne in Canada | |
Dear Mike Milne,Your email of 11 April 2005 asked about putting the Dunstan Times
(1864-1948) on our Papers Past site. Unfortunately there are no plans
to do this at the present. We hold a portion of the Times on microfilm
- 1890-1939 to be precise. I'm not sure if that's the period you are
interested in. If it is you could interloan the microfilm through
international interlibrary loan. Alternatively you could email us with
details on your gg grandfather that you would like researched.
Yours sincerely,Nigel Murphy
Librarian New Zealand & Pacific Published Collections
ALEXANDER TURNBULL LIBRARY
New Zealand ph: 04 4743000
19 May 2005 Dear Mr Milne
FACHE FAMILY
Your email dated 11 May 2005 requested information on the above family,
in particular the arrival of George Fache to New Zealand.On receipt of a postal address I can mail you the following photocopies
referring to George Cox Fache:
'New Zealand obituaries', v 34, pp 137, 138
·New Zealand free lance, 19 December 1903, p 4d
In attempting to ascertain an arrival date for the family in New
Zealand, I tried to check for the earliest evidence of George Fache (Snr.)
residing in the country. A check of V Maxwell's Settlers to Otago pre
1861 was unsuccessful. There appears to be conflicting references to his
tenure as proprietor of the Dunstan times. According to the Cyclopedia
of New Zealand (Christchurch, 1902), v 4, p 721, the Dunstan times was
founded by G Fache in 1862. However, D R Harvey's Union list of
newspapers preserved in libraries, newspaper offices, local authority offices
and museums in New Zealand (Wellington, 1987) lists the publishing
dates of the Dunstan news and Wakatip advertiser as 30 December 1862
-ca.1864 and the Dunstan times as February? 1864-24 May 1948. pages 199-200 from G H Scholefield's Newspapers in New
Zealand (Wellington, 1958) referring to these two newspapers. These
references suggest he arrived some time before 1862 or 1864. The Otago
Settlers Museum, PO Box 566, Dunedin holds indexes to Otago arrivals from
1848-1863 and may be able to help you further. It is possible that George Fache's death certificate may note how many
years he had resided in New Zealand. The Registrar General's Births,
deaths and marriages indexes (Lower Hutt, 1986), includes a death
registered at Wakatipu for a George Fache in 1915 (folio no. 2457). You may
wish to apply for this certificate via the Births, deaths and marriages
website www.bdm.govt.nz .There are several references to members of the Fache family in M J
Kelly's Births, marriages, deaths from the Dunstan times 1866-1900
(Auckland, 1991). These can be photocopied for you at a cost of fifty cents per
page. Staff in the Manuscripts and Archives Section report that TAPUHI, the
online database of the Library's unpublished collections, has been
checked on your behalf. TAPUHI can be accessed at
http://tapuhi.natlib.govt.nz. One folder containing material relating
to George Fache has been located among the Royal Forest and Bird
Protection Society of New Zealand Records (MS-Group-0206). The folder, Visit
to Australia - Mr Fache (MS-Papers-0444-684), contains material relating
to a visit to Australia by Mr Fache in 1946-1947 when he was a
vice-president of the Forest and Bird Society. This material deals with
Australia's regulations regarding the control of wildlife and does not contain
biographical material about Mr Fache. Access to this collection is
restricted and requires the permission of the General Manager of the Royal
Forest and Bird Protection Society.
Staff in Turnbull Library Pictures have checked files for photographs
of George Fache and of Dunstan or Clyde. There are no photographs of
George Fache, but there are two of Ada Howard Fache who may be a family
member. There is also a selection of photocopies of Clyde that may be of
interest to you.
Rugby Canterbury: 1896: AD DOWNES, Otago: FT EVANS, Canterbury:
GC FACHE, Wellington: 1897: HJ COUTTS, Wanganui: GC FACHE
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Mail coach, and passengers, about to leave the township of Dunstan
(now known as Clyde) for Roxburgh, circa 1880s. The Dunstan Hotel is alongside, and the Hartley Arms Hotel is also just visible. | |
could you please
include his paper The Dunstan Times
in your site?
You should find the reference to Bartholomew Fache towards the middle
of Chapter 5 "Persecutions and
Martyrdoms."
Tom Stewart
"Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy
to escape all
these things that shall come to pass, and to stand
before the Son of Man" (Luke 21:36).I found only one reference to the
Vaudois Christian martyr,
>Bartholomew Fache, in James A. Wylie's "The History of Protestantism." http://www.whatsaiththescripture.com/Voice/History.Protestant.v2.b16.html. The sum of all that Wylie wrote of Bartholomew Fache's martyrdom at the hands of his Roman inquisitors: "Bartholomew
Fache, gashed with sabres, had the wounds filled up with quicklime, and perished thus in agony at Fenile."
The God, Who willingly sacrificed His Only Begotten Son for us, must
have been desirious of making another powerful statement to the world of the Truth of His Gospel to allow Bartholomew the
necessity of such an intense death. "But He giveth more Grace" (James 4:6).I hope this helps.Tom Stewart"Precious in the sight
of the LORD is the death of His Saints" (Psalm
116:15).I cannot access info on my family (Fache) in book 16 0f Wylie's
writings. I am at library and only get 1 hour,which is not enough time to find info...
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 2:44 AM
Subject: Williams Family
Fâche, Angélique {I24508} , (Cousseau-Bourradier) , (Valade-Dupin) , (Cadieux-Fourreau) , (Suret-LeConfesseur) , (Fâche-Granserre)
Fâche, Catherine {I29331} , (Cousseau-Bourradier) , (Valade-Dupin) , (Cadieux-Fourreau) , (Suret-LeConfesseur) , (Fâche-Granserre)
Fâche, Jean {I20758} , (Fâche)
Fâche, Jeanne {I34172} , (Cousseau-Bourradier) , (Valade-Dupin) , (Cadieux-Fourreau) , (Suret-LeConfesseur) , (Fâche-Granserre)
Fâche, Maurice {I28046} , (Cousseau-Bourradier) , (Valade-Dupin) , (Cadieux-Fourreau) , (Suret-LeConfesseur) , (Fâche-Granserre)
Fâche, Nicolas {I20754} (b. 1642 - d. 3 DEC 1714) , (Fâche-Granserre)
Fâche, Robert {I14839} (b. 29 OCT 1670 - d. Bef 1741) , (Suret-LeConfesseur) , (Fâche-Granserre)
read your family tree which intersects my family, Fache I had a great great great grandfather William Fache in
London in 1873.http://www3.sympatico.ca/ouipie/BDG/geneal.htm
Granserre, Marie {I20759}   Gender: Female Family:
Marriage:Abt 1640
Spouse: Fâche, Jean {I20758}
Gender: Male
Children:
Father: Suret, Jean {I20756}
Mother: LeConfesseur, Denise {I20757}
Family:
Marriage:7 OCT 1669 Québec,Québec
Spouse: Fâche, Nicolas {I20754}
b. 1642 St-Eloi de Mesnelies,év. Amiens,Picardie Historically, France was born here when Clovis made Soissons the first capital of the Franks, in 486, and later Hugues Capet, elected king of France at Senlis, was crowned at Noyon in 987. This proud past made Picardy
the first French region, not only for historical buildings and monuments but, also, the premier region for its Gothic cathedrals.
Amiens has been specially honoured, by UNESCO, for its architectural
heritage. From an area 30 kms North of Paris, close to the Roissy Charles de Gaulle airport, the southerm boundaries stretch
eastwards towards Champagne and the Belgian border. Westwards, it extends to the English Channel. This ancient and hospitable region will not disappoint the visitor, with its choice of
4,000 hectares of lakeland, 1,200 kms of rivers, 70 kms of dunes, cliffs and luminous
beaches, coastal marshes, forests and the bays at the river mouths of the Somme and the Authie
d.
3 DEC 1714 Charlesbourg,QC
Gender: Male
Parents:
Father: Fâche, Jean {I20758}
Mother: Granserre, Marie {I20759}
Children:
Father: Cadieux, Jean {I20744}
Mother: Valade, Marie {I20874}
Family:
Marriage:1 DEC 1696 Montréal Québec,QC
Spouse: Fâche, Robert {I14839}
b. 29 OCT 1670 Charlesbourg,QC
d. Bef 1741
Gender: Male
Parents:
Father: Fâche, Nicolas {I20754}
Mother: Suret, Catherine {I20755}
Children:
Our newspaper was started in 1862 by George Fache, an original
settler in New Zealand.It was named the"Dunstan Times", as Clyde
was previously named Dunstan. The shop was located on Sunderland Street, Clyde. This journal was founded in
1862 by Mr. G. Fache, who conducted it till 1895. The premises were on freehold land, and consisted of a wooden building,
which contained a Wharfedale printing press and a complete jobbing plant. The paper was a weekly publication of eight pages
of seven columns, and had a wide circulation throughout Central Otago.  I have been wading (drowning) through miles of NZ history to find info photos of my family "Fache" who became influential
from the 1860's in Dunstan and then spread out. I have had little success. Can you share anything from your findings. mike
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